I wrote a while back about why I was down on Foursquare. That post was specific to Foursquare, which I still think is a great tool but my conclusion is that in its current state, I’m not cool enough to appreciate it.
But I’ve been studying the “check-in” apps for quite a while now and some things are becoming clear to me. I should make the point that I’m talking specifically about applications where the main feature is to check-in at a location. For instance, I’m not talking about Yelp (which added checking-in but is still focused primarily on restaurant reviews and ratings).
The 3 reasons that check-in apps aren’t going to make it:
1. Checking-in a feature, not a product. Startups face this dilemma constantly, striving to determine whether or not their company is a stand-alone business or if its better served being a part of another business. We’ll see this play out when Facebook rolls out their check-in feature. If they fail miserably only 10 million people will use it. Foursquare only has 2 million users today.
2. They currently demand too much from their users. As people get more and more comfortable lifestreaming – sharing their experiences with their friends via digital mediums – they become encumbered with too many applications required to share their experience.
Let’s say I go to a concert. I need to check-in on Foursquare to let my friends know I got there. I then take photos of the band on stage and I put them on Flickr. All my friends get in a group shot and I quickly post that on Facebook and tag them. I want to see what other people at the concert think about the playlist so far, and I need to search Twitter for that information. So you see quickly I am opening up 3 or 4 apps to share this experience. The first to go will be Foursquare as I can easily tell my friends I’m at the concert by updating my Facebook status.
3. Unlike the successful social networks, they become less useful with growth. This to me is the most interesting phenomena and perhaps the most telling when looking at the long-term value of check-in applications.
When you first use Facebook or Twitter, before you’ve really connected to people, you have that moment of, “Ok, now what?”. Then this amazing thing starts happening. You start connecting with people and pretty soon you’re checking these networks throughout the day to share more stuff with your connections and see what is happening in their lives. The more people you connect with, the better the network.
But with Foursquare, the exact opposite thing happens to most people. You start by checking in, getting badges (which seem cool at first then you quickly start saying, “Ok, now what?”) and you’re high on the leaderboard. But the more people you connect with the farther down the leaderboard you get. And the more people that are on Foursquare, the harder it is to get a mayorship. Foursquare was a lot more interesting to me when a few hundred thousand people were using it then today with almost 2 million.
So now what?
I’m in no way saying these companies don’t have a future. But they’ll have to adapt as any successful startup has to. Some things that I think will start happening in the space:
Checking-in to a location will morph to checking-in to an activity. This will expand the experience dramatically, allowing people connect in new ways. Hot Potato is one company doing this. “I’m watching the Lost series finale” for instance.
The applications will become more useful to the end user. Foursquare and Gowalla are starting to do a little of this by allowing deals/coupons/incentives through their platform. But the one I like the most is WeReward which actually gives you money via paypal for checking-in or performing tasks. I’ll open an additional app to get some cash money yo.
Some players will be snatched up and become a feature of a larger business. We’ve seen talks in this area for a while including a supposed courtship of Foursquare by Yahoo.
Checking-in will be embedded (as a feature) in brand applications. You go to Walmart, open up your Walmart app and check-in, unlocking coupons/deals/etc. Similarly you attend a conference, open up the conference app and check-in to the sessions you’re attending, where you can also download the presentation, interact with people, give feedback, etc.
We’ll see where this space ends up. Foursquare claims to want to be the 3rd major player in social networking, next to Facebook and Twitter. At this point I just don’t see it.
Do you?
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What, you tell me this now? I am almost up to $1 on WeReward!
As much as I like FourSquare, I know you're right. Badges are cool, but Mayorships mean very little in the long run, so tangible rewards beyond the occasional freebie will have to come from the establishments themselves.
Though I gotta say … Hot Potato feels like Twitter by multiple-choice. I'm occasionally slack, but that's a bit much. “It's too much effort to type an entire sentence abou what I'm actually doing, so I'll just click this and this. Zzzzz ….”
Epic Win, however? Can't wait for that. :)
I think Foursquare's ability to thrive depends way too much on how other people use it. It's best use IMHO is as a loyalty card of sorts. For every X amount of check-ins you get some sort of deal.
Your comments on having to open up too many apps to share an experience is true. Foursquare does provide ease to see who else is in your location (a feature I like) but it doesn't allow much sharing after that.
Either way, for now, Foursquare is still fun for me. I read an interview with their founder the other day saying they intended to roll out a lot of new features this fall. Maybe this will resolve some lack of sharing abilities.
Ah but I list WeReward as a sign of the future ;)
Plus I'm almost to $10 with them…cash money yo.
Great points. I'm interested to see how other applications like WeReward or Scvngr will capitalize on the idea of location based marketing and possibly partner with applications like Foursquare or Gowalla to take interactivity beyond a badge.
Cross promotions from digital to real world businesses, whether it be a coupon, a game or something new, should enhance these platforms and make them meaningful to larger user bases.
I can see a multitude of these kinds of Apps surviving as APIs as opposed to stand-alone experiences. I think that's the great success of Twitter, really, is that I can access it from multiple touchpoints and then weave that data I'm generating into a blog or Facebook or Tumblr, etc.
I don't think anyone will ever “own” the geo-location space, but I'm guessing the “winner” will have some hook into photography. I say that only because most smartphones already append GPS data as a part of the EXIF data in the photos they take.
So maybe someone like Yahoo's Flickr could make a big play or Google via some kind of new Maps/Yelp mash-up.
The winner is the data/API married to a new experience via passive awareness.
Also, this link is for Thomas: http://www.chorewars.com/
I definitely hear what you are saying. I especially agree with you on your second point–currently demanding too much from their users. I personally haven't fully gotten into FourSquare or Gowalla, but that is because it seems a little pointless to me. If I was going to let people know where I was, it would probably be through Facebook or Twitter.
I think there are going to have to be big incentives attached to geo-location apps in order for me to get into them. Just checking in somewhere to checkin and possibly get a badge doesn't do anything for me.
Totally agree Seth. Before elaborating, let me say hello to the entire city of Atlanta! I went to Lassiter High School > 1 year of school in Athens > Transferred to University of Colorado at Boulder in 1995. I miss so much about Atlanta and am glad to see the tech conversation/community thriving.
My team has been focused on location-based media for roughly 6 years straight: WellcomeMat began as a video platform for locally-focused professionals and brands to demonstrate their uniqueness on the web via online video. We gained a ton of momentum in the real estate vertical, and decided to focus “The Mat” on just that. Doing so, however, left a hole in our hearts because we are primarily concerned with the future of local business owners in the US – you know…the characters and people that make each city unique…
This is all a very long winded way of me bringing up Pegshot, which is our mobile video and photo platform used to quickly publish what's happening where you are with friends and family. We believe that being able to broadcast videos and photos to services like Twitter, Facebook, Flickr, Posterous and Tumblr and doing so with your approximate or exact location (venues, events, parks, schools etc) IS valuable enough to justify using our app. It is a utility, not a “network,” used to tell your friends where you are and share with them what's happening there.
Apologies to pitch within the comments: there are rare instances where I find myself doing this, usually when people are talking my game (which I thank all of you for). Be good and BUY LOCAL!!
Thanks for joining the conversation Christian and I'll check out Pegshot.com, looks interesting.
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